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Andy_1985
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Hi peeps
   Quite often in desperation i search the net late at night trying to find new or alternate medications to help the symtoms of my crohns as most of us are told its uncurable. Well in the past i read a few theories on the MAP bug which exists in live stock related to crohns in humans but recently i have found news of a crohns vaccine in development so copy an paste this into your browser, read it and make your own mind up!! Take it easy ppl !!  Thanks      
                                       Andy

http://freeola.com/crohns.php
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intresting read Andy, cheers, just a pity the goverment can throw billions at failed banks but cant find half a million for genuine research, but that would mean admiting that MAP can pass through the food chain (fae koos to humans) and they dont want to to do that now, thats another story- just glad the research continuing for all our sakes, hope on the horizon, eh?

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Your not wrong there m8! This illness is becoming more and more common, when i was diagnosed 15 years ago around 1 in 2000 people had crohns now its 1 in 400 soon it'll hit the news and gov will have to act.

Its a shame we missed the petition but there will be more so lets just keep our eyes peeled and get those signatures in!!        
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Hi Andy, Iam afraid your building yours and everybodies hope up on this.My specialist,who is a top
one for the midlands,says there isnt a cure for crohns and if they get anywhere near one,the top
specialists in America and the uk would be the first to know,and after that there would be years of
work doing trials before they let things loose on us,and by that time several of us would die before
we were cured. He told me and i quote.."Dont waste your time David,watching and listening about
breakthroughs with Crohns,they are drawing money,and playing with peoples emotions.There
hasnt been any news or breakthroughs,and money is being spent on other cures first,ie cancer"

We are at the bottom of the pile,just like saying "you have won a prize" but you need to collect it
in 20 years time. I hope someday the children in this world,get a cure from Crohns,but not today
next year or 20 years... Keep well mate.
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alrghty, im sure the doc thats carrying out this research is well placed in his position, could be wrong but im sure he came up with the MAP suggestion a long time ago, could be wrong, still you should always have hope,  crohns, cancer or any illness that applies, never let it get you down, be good

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There's some professor (double barrelled name) at St Georges in Tooting SW London who's been working on the MAP angle (not read your article) there is supposed to be a positive angle to it, but I think there's also a school of thought amongst some specialists that it's a waste of time.  Certainly the specialist that I was seeing at St Helier Hospital thought it was when I mentioned that I'd like to get in on the trials.

I remember seeing a programme on some obscure tv channel whilst channel hopping one night.  The guy presenting it was a south london comedian who has had 90% of his intestines taken out because of crohn's.

He went to 3 different hospitals in the country in the search for a crohn's cure.  One was the MAP research being done at St Georges as previously mentioned, can't remember what one of the others was, but what stuck out was research being done in a hospital in Nottingham with radio therapy or chemo therapy.  This looked encouraging.

You might be able to find it on you tube or something.
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Hi, there is a guy on Facebook called Tim Page who is all behind this Prof John Herman Taylor that is researching the MAP, they say its all in milk, water, and even meat - can hardly see the government admitting that cows milk is to blame, think what hysteria that would cause.

The Facebook group all about it is :

Crohns, Ulcerated Colitis, Colitis, IBD & IBS UK.

The link is:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1081224857&v=info&ref=nf#/group.php?gid=17940670605

Read the blurb and make up your own mind.

I've not stopped my Son from drinking milk, water, or eating meat, although he doesn't really like a lot of red meat through his own choice.

Lynn
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hi lynn ,not sure what i think but havn't had milk since 3 months old dont like the taste and im lactose intolerant and dislike red meat so never eat the stuff also lived in buxton and got water from the well so no addatives and have had crohns for years but only diagnosed 3-4 yrs ago so as i say not sure what to think
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Yes. Crohn's is most likely caused by MAP.

You can kill MAP safely without antibiotics.  The Antibiotic cocktail used to kill MAP is not particularly reliable and will only mess you up over the long term. Its a nasty combo of drugs. not like taking pencillin.

Try a search for the 'beck protocol' in google video. It may challenge what you think about medication but it works and It is simple to understand why it works once you know what crohn's really is.  trust me i'd be having more surgery and pain without it.  

After doing the full beck protocol for about 1-2 months you will have most likely killed all traces of MAP without any serious side effects.

The MAP infection will have most likely opened you up to other infections which you will have to treat, or they will trigger some major imflammation. These are usually e-coli type bugs and candida.

I recommend enteric coated oregano oil caps, and enteric coated peppermint caps to eradicate any e-coli (twice daily) - and then broad spectrum wormwood caps for the candida (twice daily) along with a few simple dietary mods if you need to.

Take back you health. nobody else will do it for you!

Good luck!

R.

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Sorry but your probably overpaid doctor knows jack about jack.

Crohn's is NOT AN AUTO IMMUNE DISEASE but a series of complex infections living in the intestines, bloodstream and lymphatic system. Some of the infections can not be detected with normal blood tests and are only detected under very close inspeciton with darkfield microscopy.

These resident infections are the root cause behind the body's permanent inflammatory response. Modern witch doctors will prescribe immune suppressants  such as azathioprine, 6mp, Anti TNF's to dampen down your immune repsonse to these infections. |

Eradicate these infections with gusto and bye bye crohn's.

Yeah and these specialists in America you mention probably work for the big pharmas have NO INTEREST IN CURING CROHNS. They make £12,000 per year, per person just for TNF drugs such as inflaximab and remicade. Why the hell would they want to cure you. dont be a fool...



Good luck.

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Hi Andy, Iam afraid your building yours and everybodies hope up on this.My specialist,who is a top
one for the midlands,says there isnt a cure for crohns and if they get anywhere near one,the top
specialists in America and the uk would be the first to know,and after that there would be years of
work doing trials before they let things loose on us,and by that time several of us would die before
we were cured. He told me and i quote.."Dont waste your time David,watching and listening about
breakthroughs with Crohns,they are drawing money,and playing with peoples emotions.There
hasnt been any news or breakthroughs,and money is being spent on other cures first,ie cancer"

We are at the bottom of the pile,just like saying "you have won a prize" but you need to collect it
in 20 years time. I hope someday the children in this world,get a cure from Crohns,but not today
next year or 20 years... Keep well mate.


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